Your Downline Builds Automatically - NO WORK !

Have I been Scammed ? The Math is Impossible

You aren't going to believe this. I didn't believe until I tried.

Today (well actually yesterday) May 2 at 9:15pm EST I joined a new work at home system. It just started YESTERDAY and already over 9000 people have joined. I have joined many work at home programs this month, just to see what they are like and compare them ie GDI, Revolutionary Matrix, Lightning Speed Matrix, Teamwork Revolution, Work for $3 and EZ 2x2.

So far I have only made money on 2 of those programs.

Then today I joined this new single line matrix. Single line means you get 100% SPILLOVER.

Dont have time to read about it below ? Add us to your skype and chat now ! skype user= elite-marketing

After joining this program, without doing ANY marketing whatsover, after about 10 minutes I already had 5 people in my downline. I couldn't believe it !! I had been slogging away at the other programs lucky to get 1 signup every couple of days, and after 10 minutes of doing nothing I already had a downline of 5 ?

As I write this, the time is now 2:45am EST (May 3rd). I has been 5 and half hours since I joined and I now have 15 in my downline, again from doing NOTHING !!! Granted the signup speed has slowed down, but I suspect most people are sleeping right now.

So now I decided to make this page and start sharing this with the world. The more advertising everyone does the more everyone benefits. I benefit 100% from my upline's advertising and recruits and 100% from my advertising of course. This is the first opportunity of it's kind I have personally seen. I'm sure after writing this I'm gonna recieve 100 emails from people promoting another exact same scheme, oh well, should make for interesting reading.

How Does This Work ?

Basically you pay a ONE TIME FEE of $10 to join (plus $0.75 Alertpay fee if you use Alertpay. Other payment processors may charge differently). Then, once 250 people join after you, you get $20 (double your money). So of course I haven't got paid anything yet, but at this rate I should see that $20 within a week, which is more than I can say for the other programs that haven't made a profit after longer than that.

The process repeats itself everytime you cross the next 250 mark. Once you pass 250 you get $20, then $30, then $60, then $210 etc etc. It appears to continue until you get a $1000 payout after you cross 3000 people.

Naturally this could be a total scam, and I've just lost $10. I will know soon enough. The guy who recommended it to me already has 141 in his downline (ie he is 141 members up from me). So I'm looking forward to seeing what happens once he crosses the 250 mark.

Be sure to BOOKMARK this page and come back daily for the update on whether the guy 141 memebers above me gets paid or not. Once he gets paid then I will continue to update this page with how close I am to the $20 payout mark and whether or not I got paid.

So if you prefer to wait to see if I get scammed, no problem. Should make for amusing reading for everyone. I am by no means a sucker, I just really love business. Some people collect stamps, coins, do gardening etc. All hobbies cost money, and this is mine. The thing is, sometimes my hobby pays out, which it has in the past. This month is my first time taking a crack at this online marketing and its kinda fun seeing my ads turn into website hits and then into people buying products or joining programs.

However if you choose to wait, just remember you are missing out on automatic downline members as you wait. So you either risk $10 and join NOW, or come back in a few days and wait to see if I, or the other guy gets paid and THEN join when you are more sure. But if you wait until then you could lose out on 100 or 200 downline members. I think as this thing grows it will accelerate as more and more join and advertise it.

I just checked my downline while writing this, and Im still at 15. Now new dowline members in the last few minutes

Check back tomorrow for my progress, and again until I hit my 250 mark to see whether or not I was a sucker !!!

If you have any interest or further questions about this opportunity please send us an email autodownline@consultingelite.com

You may also chat with us on skype - just add user id elite-marketing. Please be sure to put in the comment box you are inquiring about the Auto Downline opportunity. Thanks. We look forward to hearing from you.

UPDATES

May 3rd 3:46 am (elapsed time since joining = 6.5hrs) total downline members now = 19 (that's 4 more during the time it took to write and post this page)

May 3rd 10:25 am EST - (elapsed time since joining = 13+hrs) total downline members now 24

May 3rd 7:45PM (elapsed time since joining = 22+hrs) total downline referrals = 58 (only 1 direct referral, the rest is spillover)

May 3rd 8:10pm - downline now at 59 - still only 1 referral by me - 58 are spillovers

May 4th 8am EST - downline now at 100 - only 1 recruit by me, 99 are spillovers. Also I've been doing some math and I'm pretty sure this is a scam as the numbers just don't add up. They are paying out more than they are taking in so Im not sure how they are doing it. However, it's only 9 more members until the guy above me is supposed to get paid, so we will see ....

May 4th 9:52pm EST - downline now at 108 - still only 1 recruit by me and 107 spillover. Only 1 more sign up and the guy above me hits his 250 and we can see if we were scammed or not !!!

May 4th 5:44pm EST - downline now at 198 - still only 1 recuit by me and 197 spillover. The guy above me has DEFINITELY crossed the 250 mark. I've emailed him to see if he got paid or not. Wait for the reply and check back here for the result. Scam or no Scam ??? My money is on scam at this point because the math doesn't add up. More on the math later......

May 4th 7:17pm EST - downline now at 214 - still only 1 recruit by me so 213 is spillover. I should hit my 250 by then end of the day I expect. Still no payout from the guy 141 above me. Looks like payout isn't very quick (if at all)

May 4th 11:20pm EST - downline now at 232 (still only 1 recruit by me personally so 231 is spillover). Getting very close to the 250 mark. The guy 141 above me hasn't replied to my email yet about whether he has been paid or not. I sent him my mathematical calculations exposing how the renumeration is mathematically impossible and he said he email the company about it. So we will see. Keep checking back for more updates .....

May 5th 1:40am EST - downline now at 246 (still 1 referral by me & 245 spillover). Only 4 more till I get 250 and "qualify for my first payout of $20" . We will see won't we ? ...

NOTE : Please keep this site in your bookmarks. I will be adding other pages in the future talking about my experience with other work at home programs. I think I will continue to experiment with these (just for fun, ie a hobby) to see which ones work. You are welcome to submit your experiences too, good or bad. But please note I will not post your affiliate link here, as any experience with an affiliate link is biased and cannot be trusted as fully honest. In fact I prefer to hear about other peoples failures so as to help everyone make good decisions about which program to join and which suits them best.

The programs I have joined and will write about in the future are :

GDI, Revolutionary Matrix, Lightning Speed Matrix, Teamwork Revolution, Work for 3 Dollars, Ez 2x2 and this current one I am talking about.

Keep checking back for the updates on this scheme, and PLEASE send me your horror or failure stories for the other schemes out there. Further, if you are considering joining a scheme, send me that info too so I can check it out. If it's a cheap one time fee (like this one), maybe I will join and do a write up about it. If I'm sure it's a load of rubbish I will just do a write up about my research and opinion on the opportunity.

Please note, I will not slander any companies here, I will merely present the facts of my and or other people's experiences. If you submit your experience please do not make any judgemental statements like "this is definitely a scam" etc. Just the facts, people are smart enough to see if something is a scam for themselves. Your factual bad experience will be enough to deliver that message.

May 5th 2:18am EST - CROSSED THE 250 - WHERE'S MY $20 ?!?!? Now that I have crossed the 250 mark I will post the link to this "opportunity" so you don't have to email me. Just check it out for yourself. However I recommend you wait until I, or the other guy above me, actually get our $20 payment. If you think it's real and you like to live life on the edge then go ahead and join now ! But as I said before the math is impossible and it's bound to fail.

You will need an Alertpay account to join this scheme (once we know it works). But you might as well set up an Alertpay account now so that if and when it works you are ready to jump in. It's free to setup and is basically another payment processor like Paypal. Click the icon below to set up your account.

 

It appears you can join this scheme for free to "lock in your position" and pay the $10 fee later. Im not so sure about how that works, so go ahead and join. Then once Im paid the $20, and we know it's good, you can then pay your $10 "upgrade" fee. I will post here AS SOON as the guy 141 above me is paid or I am paid. If there is no post for a few days, its because neither of us have been paid. I will post within MINUTES of being paid - trust me !. All the best !

http://www.fastprofitpowerlines.com/index.php?9098

May 5 5:20pm EST - MAJOR MISTAKE MADE BY ME. If you look at the site above you can see the Power Line Growing and the numbers being displayed. In order to calculate how big my downline was, I simply subtracted my 9098 number from the total number in the downline. However, it is free to register and unless the members pay their $10 fee they aren't really considered in your downline. I recently figured out how to find out how many PAID members are in my downline and at present as of writing this I only have 87 PAID members, one of which was referred by me directly and 86 were spill over. It's not easy at all to figure this out as I had to copy and paste the line into word and count how many people were below me manually. Pretty crap tracking system if you ask me. Anyways, I guess its fair to say I'm not due the $20 quite yet, but Im getting an average of almost 30 members per day in my downline. At this rate I will qualify for the $20 payout around May 11th I should qualify.

However the guy above me has DEFINITELY crossed the 250 mark. So it will be interesting to see if he gets paid or not.

NOTE : While writing this I have JUST joined another "scheme". It was one advertised on vinefire and it was $11 to join (one-time fee). I don't mind experimenting on these 1 time fee schemes that have spillover. So I joined to see how it would go and I will write about it here too. Eventually I will separate the site into all the individual programs. The vinefire ad was "Cycle Within Hours of Joining" - lets see shall we ? Haha yeah whatever !!!

Here is the link if you want to check it out :

Will I Be Scammed Again With This ?

When you click on it there is a "virtual girl" that talks to you wearing a short skirt. So its BOUND to work right ? Haha lets see. I'm not going to get the same 100% spillover as I am from the other program, but I will update you here if and when that happens.

May 6 7pm EST - I now have 107 PAID MEMBERS in my downline, 2 were referred directly by me, so that's a spillover of 105 Paid Members. Of course my free member spillover is over 400 now, but we only get paid (supposedly) after 250 paid members join. So yesterday I had 87 which gives an average of 20/day. Therefore I won't qualify for the $20 payou until about 8 days from now. The other guy hasn't been paid yet and he promised to email me as soon as he does get paid.

However, in the meantime I have joined another program that IS paying. It's a matrix program of course, like GDI or RM however it's matrix is better AND you will be paid for promoting, even without getting any sign ups. So that's unique and also is very encouraging, as slogging away promoting without sign ups is very disheartening. You can check out my site about this opportunity which is working so far : Elite Team Marketing

 

May 6 9:30pm EST - I thought I would just drop a note here regarding the last scheme I joined under the advertisement "Cycle Within Hours of Joining". Well, needless to say I haven't cycled yet and it's been 24 hours already, but I guess that's my own fault. Silly me, when I saw "hours" I thought maybe 5 or 6. I should have known the guy who placed the ad meant 25,000 hours. Oh what an idiot I am, I should pay more attention in the future ! Come back here in 25,000 hours to watch me cycle in my latest scheme !!! Im sure that's what he meant, there's no way someone would lie about that right ? Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and believe his meaning was 25,000 hours. That will give us all a warm feeling. Feel free to go ahead and join, because you TOO can "Cycle within (25,000) Hours of Joining". We can all cycle together in 50 years from now, won't that be fun ?

 

May 7 2am EST - Just thought I would update everyone on my most successful to date work at home program I have tried out. I call it "Elite Team Marketing". I joined this program on the 22nd of April. So after about 2 weeks my progress has been 3 spillover recruits from my upline sponsor and 2 recruits by myself. Therefore I am now breaking even. ie 5 recuits under me is bringing in $10/month ($2 each for the first line) and the fee for this program is $10/mo. After this each member recruited by me or by my downline will give me $1/month per recruit. So all in all I'm quite satisfied with these results after 2 weeks. I doubt I can keep an average of 1 member per week recruited by myself. If I can get 1 per month I would be happy. At that rate, after 1 year I'd be making $3774 per month, so long as everyone else got 1 per month too. Further, I can also offer additional commissions to my downline for their marketing efforts. If you have any questions about this one email me or click on the link. Elite Team Marketing

 

May 8 9am EST - About the math - I said earlier I would talk about the math of Fast Profit Powerline and how its impossible so here it is. I hope it's easy enough to follow. They claim to pay $20 after you get 250 people below you. Then $30 for the next 250, and it continues to increase for every 250 people.

Now lets pretend it has just begun. The first 250 people pay $10 each so the company now has $2500 pure profit. The 251st person joins so now they must pay the first person $20. When the 252nd person joins they must pay the second person $20 and so on. So from this point onwards the company is loosing $10 for every person that joins. It's just impossible. Once they hit 500 people they would break even ie 500 people = $5000 but they would have paid out 250 $20 payouts also equal to $5000. Therefore from person 501 onwards they are in debt.

So really Im quite stupid for joining this program without doing the math first. However, in my life of business I don't normally sit down and do a cost analysis for only a $10 purchase. And as I said, I just wanted to try this thing out for the purpose of seeing if their claim is true. Maybe I missed something in the math ? In fact I spoke to someone on Skype today who also is in Fast Profit Powerline and he has like 2000 paid members below him and he still hasn't recieved any money. Perhaps my next step is to attempt to file a claim with Alertpay for false advertising. Im interested to see what Alertpay will do about this. That will be in the next update I guess.

 

May 9 8:30am EST - Just wanted to let everyone know that I am now in profit with Elite Team Marketing. I got my first commission payment of $4 from them. So it IS working. At least for now anyways. One never knows what the future holds for these schemes.

Also, I am in a profit situation with $3 Investment. However the money they are supposed to pay me hasn't arrived in my Alertpay account. Perhaps there is a pay cycle as I only joined it a couple of weeks ago, so I will be patient and post here once the money arrives in my Alertpay account

 

May 10 12am EST - I've been getting a few more referrals with the $3 Investment even in the last few hours! I checked my "$3 back office" and indeed I noticed a payout date scheduled for May 29 2009. I'm currently at $7.70 in commissions owing to me. I will continue to update my commission status and of course, more importantly post on May 29 as to whether I ACTUALLY got paid or not. I'm pretty sure this one will pay out though, because at least the math adds up. Their compensation plan ensures they make a profit, unlike the Fast Profit Powerline which is mathematically impossible according to my calculations.

 

May 11 1:30pm EST - I got an email today from someone in the Powerline who claims they got paid their $20 on May 3rd. Their number is 2714 and they said their sponsor has also been paid a few times. Hmmm, is there hope for us ? Time will tell .....

 

May 12 6:46pm EST - I just got yet another email from a member who claims to have been paid. They made a very good point in their email saying I can't declare this a scam. Although I believe the math shows that what they are offering IS indeed impossible, I have still changed my site just to be safe. I no longer declare it a scam at the top, but merely ask the rhetorical question. The evidence I present here can speak for itself.

However, I WILL say that I have just checked my power line and now I am INDEED past the 250 mark, in fact I have 275 !!! (PAID Members of course). The powerline is at 9850 including non paid members giving me a downline of 750+ including free members. So after 10 days my $10 investment should have turned into a $20 return for a profit of $10. I am now in a position to actually say "WHERE'S MY $20 ?". Unlike the first time when I didn't realize about the paid / unpaid thing.

So, if you believe the emails I have recieved from 2 people about getting paid, by all means go ahead and join. You can always join for free and pay later, or at least that's how it seems. If and when I ever do get paid, I will post that here immediately for everyone's benefit. So keep checking back to see whether or not I was scammed. Time will tell .....